So Columbus Mayor Mike Coleman wants a streetcar service to run downtown. Great. For a minute there I thought we had run out of ideas for things the city didn’t need that nobody would use. Then again, this seems to be a dominant paradigm of though amongst the powers that be in public transportation, and not just in
To be fair, there was a period in American history where streetcars were both popular and profitable. In the late 19th and early 20th centuries, they were reliably known as the most effective form of mass transit within major cities, replacing the horse-drawn carriage (at least Mayor Coleman doesn’t want to bring those back). They also were electric-powered, which conserved rationed fuel during wartime, and provided a means for commoners to get around the city, since the personal automobile was still considered a rare luxury item. Like most means of mass transportation, however, the streetcar died out in popularity once owning a car became more common.
The postwar popularity of the automobile made getting from 15th and High to the Statehouse in less than half an hour a possibility and represented a sense of independence and self-reliance that socialist government public policies have never been able to destroy. The simple fact is that no matter how high gas prices get, no matter how many different and quirky forms of public transportation are conceived and constructed, and no matter what Algore’s scare tactics might allege, people will never give up their cars. Public transportation nowadays represents a niche market at best, to which the likes of college students like myself belong. If these riders had cars (and if I had the ability to drive one), they wouldn’t be riding buses. It simply makes no sense to drive your car to a designated “Park and Ride” location only to take a bus to get to your destination in a lot more time, other than it making the rider feel warm and fuzzy about saving the planet. Pollution is still pollution whether it comes from your car or their bus.
Granted there are cities in this country that can and do support public transportation like
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Actually, the Portland Streetcar is far above projections. Originally projected at 3000 riders a day, it's at 9,000. Do you think taking 9,000 people off the streets of downtown Portland is actually causing congestion? And the neighborhoods that it has created have facilitated walking taking even more people out of their cars. Not to mention put millions of dollars back into the city's tax base. 2.8 Billion dollars in new development has risen around the streetcar. When was the last time a bus did that? Never. The streetcar is funded actually by the City of Portland and Tri-Met. But your road network is funded by the City as well and not gas taxes so what's new? Everything is subsidized...your free market dissapeared when the Interstate Highway System that Eisenhower wanted as toll roads was funded straight up by the government.
I suggest you read Cascade Policy Institute's report on those neighborhoods.
A little off topic, but it's important to take note that all of the out-of-staters jumping into the Kentucky race are YourCRNC flunkies. There is, again, no evidence of Gourley involvement in the state races. There is no evidence that field reps are dividing chapters against themselves, none of that stuff.
I would totally support Hugh Hall if he kicks all their hypocritical YourCRNC butts out of his state.
Can you be a little more specific? Exactly which YourCRNC flunkies are jumping into the KY race? I am in KY and I don't know any. Where are you getting your info?
If your referring to my questions about Morgan and Charlie it was nothing more then me stirring the pot, I could care less about the national scene right now, it's all screwed up but my state organization is in bad shape too and that's all I care about. i just wanted to get some discussion about the CR's on a blog that i thought was centered around mostly CR topics...not this boring stuff we've had over the past 2 1/2 wks
I was referring to this comment, "...it's important to take note that all of the out-of-staters jumping into the Kentucky race are YourCRNC flunkies."
I don't know who from YourCRNC is involved. It seems, based on facebook groups, that numberous so-called "opposition" support the candidate running against Wilkins. Remember, people have to stop thinking about opposition/establishment, since it doesn't exist anymore! Get over it.
You mean the crazy libertarian cascade policy institute that doesn't know anything about transportations' past present and future? No thanks.
I went and looked at the facebook groups and I see what you mean now. It seems like the so-called "opposition" support Morgan's opponent and the so-called "establishment" is supporting her. If anyone was going to be "opposition" I would think it would be Morgan. I mean, Gourley and Hydro threw her under the bus big time.
Well she has never said anything bad about Gourley and his people. I think they came out against her for her activities just to protect themselves and the CRNC.
Okay...Morgan is a nobody in the state of KY. She has absolutely zero chance of winning the election. In fact, she has more of a chance to run for national office and win, since that is where all her support is coming from anyway.
I'll take it. Morgan for CRNC Chairman! LOL. Watch out Charlie!
speaking of national officers, who all do you think will be on Charlie's ticket?
yeah, I agree no one would ride that thing in Columbus. It sounds like a major waste.
Charlie Smith says that Leadership Institute is anachronistic (out of date). They have a ten million dollar a year budget, we have a ten million dollar deficit.
So how is LI anachronistic?
Smith is one flash email away from wrecking the CRNC's relationship with LI. Who wants to send it?
Instead of wrecking relationships we have with allied organizations, we need to make them stronger than ever. Charlie Smith is making a major error here by his comments. The LI is a great organization to have contact with in DC if for nothing else the training and the networking!
This LI-bashing opposition horseshit has no place in the leadership. This is a political stunt and Charlie Smith is calculating that the LI-hating sharks will smell blood and join his side. What an asshole.
LI is a great organization. Like Jeff said, if only for the contacts itself. Morton Blackwell is not someone I would want on my bad side.
Roads and Highways are almost entirely dependent on government tax subsidies too.
The City of Columbus contributed 27.6 million dollars toward the construction of a second interchange at Polaris.
Franklin County is spending 180 million dollars on an upgrade of the 270/161 interchange.
There is a proposed 550 million dollar south innerbelt project that will divert I-70 and I-71 around the downtown areas between the central interchange and I-71. (This is after spending several hundred million to construct I-670 which diverted I-70 north of downtown.)
The north outerbelt is being widened (for at least the second time) between 161 and Dublin and both interchanges are being rebuilt at SR315 and I-71 for an additional 130 million.
IMO, you should direct your anger at the massive waste of tax dollars at these other projects rather than at a street car line which will cost less than one of the new flyover ramps at I-71.
At least a street car line encourages future development that is less dependent on road construction, while all this highway building just encourages more development that will cost even more to support with more roads in the future.
There's an old saying about being "penny-wise and pound-foolish" Look it up.
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